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Datum: Mittwoch, den 6. Oktober 2010, um 3:26 Uhr
Betrifft: HLT-Folterungen

>  Wer die HLT-Kirche kritisiert, wird evtl. mit Missachtung o.ä. gestraft. Wer die DDR kritisierte, landete im Stasi-Gefängnis. Die DDR eignet sich für einen Vergleich sicher besser als das NS-Regime. Gut passt sie deswegen trotzdem nicht. Besser wären Vergleiche mit Institutionen, die ihre Angehörigen nicht völlig „legitim“ körperlich foltern, einsperren oder töten dürfen.

Folter kann unterschiedlich sein. Hast du schon einmal etwas von der "weißen" Folter gehört? Das sind Foltermethoden, die keine körperlichen Spuren hinterlassen, weil sie psychisch sind. Z.B. Schafentzug, das Hören der Schreie von Familienangehörigen oder Freunden, die (oft nur zum Schein) gefoltert wurden.
Auch die HLT "folterte" ihre Mitglieder. Z.B. solche, die homosexuell waren. Schon mal was von Elektroschock-und Aversionstherapie gehört, angewandt bei Homosexuellen, um sie zu heilen? Angewendet unter anderem in der kircheneigenen BYU (bis in die siebzuger Jahre hinein, laut einigen Quellen sogar bis zum Beginn der Neunzger)? Oder nehmen wir einmal die neueste unselige Ansprache von "Apostel" Packer, indem er, laut der Tribune, folgendes sagte:

Same-sex attraction can be overcome and any type of union other than marriage between a man and a woman is morally wrong, an LDS apostle told millions of Mormons on Sunday.
“There are those today who not only tolerate but advocate voting to change laws that would legalize immorality, as if a vote would somehow alter the designs of God’s laws and nature,” Boyd K. Packer, president of the church’s Quorum of Twelve Apostles, said in a strongly worded sermon about the dangers of pornography and same-sex marriage. “A law against nature would be impossible to enforce. Do you think a vote to repeal the law of gravity would do any good?”
Packer, speaking from his seat because of his frail
health, addressed more than 20,000 members gathered in the LDS Conference Center in downtown Salt Lake City and millions more watching the faith’s 180th Semiannual General Conference via satellite.
The senior apostle drew on the church’s 1995 declaration, “The Family: A Proclamation to the World,” to support his view that the power to create offspring “is not an incidental part of the plan of happiness. It is the key — the very key.”
Some argue that “they were pre-set and cannot overcome what they feel are inborn tendencies toward the impure and unnatural,” he said. “Not so! Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone?
Remember he is our father.”
Alluding to the Utah-based church’s support of laws such as California’s Proposition 8 that would define marriage as exclusively between a man and a woman, Packer said, “Regardless of the opposition, we are determined to stay on course.”
“We cannot change; we will not change,” the senior apostle declared. “We quickly lose our way when we disobey the laws of God. If we do not protect and foster the family, civilization and our liberties must needs perish.”(http://www.sltrib.com/csp/cms/sites/sltrib/pages/printerfriendly.csp?id=50404210)

Was für Folgen diese Entscheidung für Mormonen hat, wurde von einigen, die es wissen müssen, so beschrieben:

After a string of LGBT teen suicides in the national news, many fear that Boyd K. Packer’s statements characterizing same-sex attraction as “impure” and “unnatural” could add to the emotional distress that youths already experience as they come to terms with being gay or transgender.(...)
The Human Rights Campaign, a national gay-rights heavyweight, pushed Packer to correct his “inaccurate and dangerous” statements. In Salt Lake City, activist and blogger Eric Ethington called for a protest Thursday at the LDS Church Office Building of Packer’s “hate speech.” Equality Utah’s executive director, Brandie Balken, said she encourages gay and transgender Utahns to “speak out.”
Last year, the American PsychologicalAssociation passed a resolution advising mental health professionals against telling clients they can change their sexual orientation through therapy or other treatments. No solid evidence exists that such efforts work, the APA concluded, and some studies suggest the potential for harm, including depression and suicidal tendencies.
Parents who tell their gay teens to change are engaging in one of a number of “rejecting” behaviors that increase the likelihood a youth may commit suicide, suffer depression, abuse drugs or have unprotected sex, according to a 2009 study in the medical journal Pediatrics.
The Utah Pride Center is holding its first ever conference to encourage “family acceptance” of LGBT youthsFriday through Sunday. Caitlin Ryan, a co-author of the Pediatrics study and director of the Family Acceptance Project at San Francisco State University, will speak at the event.
Valerie Larabee, director of the Utah Pride Center, which offers support to gay and transgender teens
and their families, said Packer struck a nerve that is particularly raw right now because of a series of
tragic deaths. (...)
Last month, a California middle schooler, a high school freshman in Greensburg, Ind., and a 13-yearold from suburban Houston took their own lives after being bullied by classmates for being gay, according to news reports. And Tyler Clementi, a freshman at Rutgers University, jumped off a bridge
after fellow students broadcast over the Internet Clementi’s sexual encounter with another man.
“The LDS Church needs to be held accountable for giving Boyd Packer a platform [where] he chose to
be so divisive,” Larabee said. “It’s such a departure from where people hope the church is located on
this issue. It’s very contrary to the message [the church] sent when it endorsed the anti- discrimination legislation in Salt Lake City [last year].”(...)
“We have more and more data that indicate biological correlations and mechanisms underlie our drive in who we’re attracted to,” Beckstead said. “Nurture has some influence in how we live out our sexual orientations. But to say that sexual orientation is not based in nature is not just simplistic — it’s wrong.” (http://www.sltrib.com/csp/cms/sites/sltrib/pages/printerfriendly.csp?id=50412276)

Jemanden es zu verbieten, nicht so sein zu dürfen, wie man ist, oder eine Ehe einzugehen, ist auch eine Form von Folter, denn, neben den bereits beschriebenen Folgen, werden homosexuelle mormonische Jugendliche obdachlos (wegen dem, was die HLT lehrt), wachen mit Selbsthass auf, und gehen mit Selbsthass ins Bett (wegen dem, was die HLT lehrt), werden alkoholabhängig, depressiv und selbstmordgefährdet, alles Dinge, die ich (außer der Obdachlosigkeit) am eigenem Leibe erfahren habe.
Wäre die HLT ein Staat, wäre sie deswegen in Den haag längst verknackt worden!

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